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What you’ll learn from this episode:
● Why third parties may give advice that employers can’t: “Is the company going to go bankrupt or grow 10X? The company doesn't want to take either stance. The company can't tell all its employees, ’We are definitely going to be worth $10 billion. You should exercise now.’ What happens if it doesn't?”
● How equity compensation decisions vary from person to person: “[Our goal is to help people] make the right decision for them and that is not always exercising. Sometimes it's better to not exercise. Sometimes it's better to wait two years and see what's going to happen. It depends on the individual. ”
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From Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, this is Thriving Globally with Equity: A podcast following companies as they break into global markets.
In today's episode, Leslie Schmidt and Lauren Stempel, both Head of Sales at Betts Recruiting, join the show to share detailed points of view on significant changes in the recruitment landscape, talent attraction challenges and scenarios for a new generation, and why companies need to get creative and start reconsidering their compensations and equity packages. Listen to this episode to learn why the hiring market has changed so drastically within the last months and what are the new assets that are here to stay.
Jump straight into:
(00:40) A complete market shift: Market competition in the recruiting industry after the 2020 downfall - “It's now the hottest and most competitive hiring market that I've ever seen in my career in recruiting.”
(03:53) - A new generation of candidates: How are companies trying to attract and retain good employees - “They're thinking about their future. They're actually looking for financial advice and guidance and they're trying to save money.”
(07:54) - The challenges and values of explaining equity compensation to employees - “Walk them through what that number could mean for them in the long run, because they're supposed to be signing on for the future they see with you as the company.”
(9:06) - On the run for lower costs: How the pandemic has triggered an exodus to less expensive cities in the US - “About 26% of the candidates have moved out of the Bay Area and people aren't doing a commute anymore. They don't want to”.
Resources
Connect with Leslie and Lauren through LinkedIn
Betts Recruiting
Thanks for joining us! To learn more, check out our website, where you'll find other episodes of Thriving Globally with Equity, along with deep-dive articles on each story.
Thriving Globally with Equity is a production from Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, written by David Vallance from Campfire Labs, narrated by Mercy Lee Bell, with additional production and editing by StudioPod Media.

Jeffrey Le Sage isn’t your usual tech founder. His background is in the practice of law, not engineering. He cut his teeth writing contracts, not code. Although he has lived in California for years, Los Angeles—not Silicon Valley—is where he calls home.
Yet, his experiences provide him with a unique perspective on the startup world; specifically, employee equity. After two decades wading through the moral quandaries, administrative headaches and tax inefficiencies sometimes associated with the field, he went on to found Liquid Stock, a fintech startup that aims to improve access to liquidity for employees of pre-IPO companies.
What you’ll learn from this episode:How some entrepreneurs became fixated on retention: “As a lawyer advising companies, I heard people say they wanted to keep their employees where they are and stop them from exercising their options,” said La Sage. “I heard some people justify it saying they were protecting their employees from the vultures.”Why employee-first cultures may be on the rise: “You're seeing companies led by employee-first cultures,” said La Sage” “They realized that they have to take care of their people. You can't just forget them, tie them down, and assume that they're going to remain contributors to your company.The advantage of turning options holders into shareholders: “One large eCommerce company had a massive unforeseen dividend,” said La Sage. “A bunch of employees who had exercised their options participated in that dividend because they were shareholders. The others hadn't and missed out.”

From Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, this is Thriving Globally with Equity: A podcast following companies as they break into global markets.
On today's episode, Bob Carella, Director of Global Equity at Sprinklr, joins us to talk about his career, how hybrid roles will become key in the future, the importance of looking at payroll and equity as more than just numbers on a screen, and why becoming approachable will make a huge difference with the people around you. Listen now to learn more about global equity, the evolution of Sprinklr and why cultivating relationships should become your number one priority. 
Jump straight into:
(00:47) - The corporate ladder, joining Sprinklr, and the importance of cultivating relationships -  “We make sure that we are always at the top of hand thinking of the employee experience.”
(05:17) - Bob from Finance’s Stock Roadshows and the migration to the digital world - “We go into value-add meetings, I think that's always essential. You meet with a purpose and everybody should have a voice and just speak what's on their mind.”
(10:51) - The transformation of Sprinklr and why hybrid roles are the future - “In the world of private companies with equity, I do think that some people are very open to it and understand the frustrations that happen, and more often than not, it comes down to the communication side.”
Resources
Connect with Bob through LinkedIn
Sprinklr
Thanks for joining us! To learn more, check out our website, where you'll find other episodes of Thriving Globally with Equity, along with deep dive articles on each story.
Thriving Globally with Equity is a production from Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, written by David Vallance from Campfire Labs, narrated by Mercy Lee Bell, with additional production and editing by StudioPod Media.

From Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, this is Thriving Globally with Equity: A podcast following companies as they break into global markets.
Joining us on today’s episode, Rob Knott, Executive Chairman at the global engineering and professional services firm, GHD, shares the story of how he ended up in the company by chance, how globalization opened new horizons for Australian companies, and the secret behind expanding worldwide without losing yourself in the way: their company's ownership program. Listen now to learn more about GHD’s successful equity plan and how everything changes once your employees have some skin in the game. 
Jump straight into:
(00:50) - Rob and the globalization of the Australian market - “We either had to grow and become a global operator, or we would potentially disappear and become irrelevant.”
(05:16) - Expanding without cracking via the company’s ownership model - “I see it regularly with someone who you invite to be a shareholder, they change their mindset set.” 
(11:18) - No rush! The long-term benefits of equity - “You can set your own pace. Your pace should always be adding value, but you're not driven by market forces to do that faster than you need to.”
Resources
Connect with Rob through LinkedIn
Visit GHD’s website to learn about the company. 
Thanks for joining us! To learn more, check out our website, where you'll find other episodes of Thriving Globally with Equity, along with deep dive articles on each story.
Thriving Globally with Equity is a production from Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, written by David Vallance from Campfire Labs, narrated by Mercy Lee Bell, with additional production and editing by StudioPod Media.

From Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, this is Thriving Globally with Equity: A podcast following companies as they break into global markets.
Implementing shared ownership in any business is a tough job, but running a global equity plan through 39 countries is a colossal endeavor. In today’s episode, we are joined by Micaela Castello, Head of Executive Compensation, Performance Management and Employee Equity at CSL, to talk about how the company brings its equity programs worldwide, why she reframed CSL’s executive compensation plan, and how they deal with different legal systems and tax regimes from around the world. Listen now to learn more about CSL’s commitment to making shared ownership a reality for all their employees around the globe. 
Jump straight into:
(00:40) - Micalea’s journey: From working in financial services to her first day at CSL - “I was just struck by the culture of the organization and that every employee is there for the patient. Everything we do is about saving lives, protecting public health.”
(04:22) - Reframing CSL’s remuneration plan: 2016 scrutiny over executive compensation packages - “In 2016 we received a first strike on our remuneration report and under Australian legislation, if you receive a no vote of 25% or more for two consecutive years, then there's the potential for a board spill based on shareholder resolutions”.
(07:59) - CSL’s Global Employee Share Plan- “This is one of the only global benefits that we offer to all employees consistently and globally, which is fantastic, and we have really good uptake across the organization and our different countries.”
(09:46) - The challenges of operating an equity program in 39 different countries - “In addition to the communication and education piece, the legal and tax compliance piece is another one of the big challenges that we face”.
(12:04) - Getting effective information to every employee across the globe - ”Equity is complex at the best of times, so to try and explain things so that people understand the mechanics and how it all works is important for us.”
Resources
Connect with Micaela through LinkedIn
Check out CSL’s website
Thanks for joining us! To learn more, check out our website, where you'll find other episodes of Thriving Globally with Equity, along with deep dive articles on each story.
Thriving Globally with Equity is a production from Shareworks by Morgan Stanley, written by David Vallance from Campfire Labs, narrated by Mercy Lee Bell, with additional production and editing by StudioPod Media.